Conversations

Conversations with Christian leaders about their calling, their journey, and the future they see forming.

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Discipleship and Reaching Gen Z | Dave Bachman
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Discipleship and Reaching Gen Z | Dave Bachman

Large group teaching has its place. But transformation? That happens one relationship at a time. Mike Glenn and Dave Bachman from Campus Navigators dig into why Gen Z is spiritually hungry but institutionally skeptical -- and how personal discipleship becomes the bridge that programs alone can never build.

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The Marketplace Is Your Ministry | Dewey Greene
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The Marketplace Is Your Ministry | Dewey Greene

Business leaders are some of the most underutilized ministry assets in any congregation. Mike Glenn talks with C12 Chairman Dewey Greene about his journey from corporate success to spiritual calling -- and how pastors can help marketplace leaders discover that their work isn't separate from ministry. It is ministry.

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Taking Jesus to Work | Matthew Yates
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Taking Jesus to Work | Matthew Yates

Where do people spend 90,000 hours of their lives? At work. Mike Glenn sits down with Matthew Yates from Corporate Chaplains of America to challenge the assumption that church ministry and the corporate world operate in separate silos -- and why solving that divide may be one of the most important things a pastor can do right now.

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A Mother, Faithfully Restored | Jamie Heard
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A Mother, Faithfully Restored | Jamie Heard

In this episode, Mike Glenn sits down with Jamie Heard, founder of Faithfully Restored, to explore how profound loss became the foundation for ministry that reaches hundreds of grieving women across the country. Jamie shares her journey through losing her father to suicide and her son William at age two, and how community showed up in ways that revealed what the body of Christ truly looks like.

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Ministry Before the Message | Wayne Howell and Jeffrey Caruth
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Ministry Before the Message | Wayne Howell and Jeffrey Caruth

In this episode, Mike Glenn sits down with Wayne Howell and Jeffrey Caruth from Franktown Open Hearts, a ministry that started with one man's obedience in a deer stand 29 years ago. Wayne shares how God called him from disobedience to serve kids in Franklin, Tennessee, while Jeffrey explains why successful businessmen are stepping into this work.

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Mentorship That Breaks Cycles | Curt Campbell
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Mentorship That Breaks Cycles | Curt Campbell

In this episode, Mike Glenn sits down with Curt Campbell of Men of Valor to talk about the power of discipleship, mentorship, and second chances. Curt shares how Men of Valor walks with men during and after incarceration, helping them rebuild their lives through structure, community, and faith. This conversation goes beyond prison ministry and explores what real transformation looks like when people show up consistently, speak truth, and walk alongside others through healing, identity, and redemption.

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Ministry Beyond the Church Walls | Scott Harris
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Ministry Beyond the Church Walls | Scott Harris

Scott Harris joins Mike Glenn for a conversation about why the mission of the Church cannot be confined to a building. Drawing from decades of ministry leadership and his work with Mission Increase, Scott shares why churches must learn to release people into ministry beyond the four walls and recognize that Kingdom work often happens in businesses, nonprofits, and communities around the world. As a missionary kid who grew up partly in Barbados and later served 18 years as Missions Minister at Brentwood Baptist Church, Scott brings a global perspective on leadership, soul care, and the importance of building strong partnerships between churches and mission-driven organizations. Together, Mike and Scott explore how leaders can develop the next generation, steward influence wisely, and help the Church move from gathering crowds to sending people into meaningful Kingdom impact.

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Building a Church That Can Handle Growth | Miles Terry
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Building a Church That Can Handle Growth | Miles Terry

In this episode, Mike Glenn sits down with Miles Terry, managing partner of Gideon Law Group, to unpack why many churches struggle not because they aren’t growing, but because they aren’t prepared for growth. From outdated bylaws to unclear leadership and lack of accountability, Miles explains how internal misalignment often creates the very problems churches fear most.

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Beyond “Diet Jesus”: Rediscovering the Real Christ in a Practical World | Elliott Cherry
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Beyond “Diet Jesus”: Rediscovering the Real Christ in a Practical World | Elliott Cherry

Elliott Cherry, pastor of Midtown Fellowship in Nashville, joins the conversation to explore what it means to follow the real Jesus in a culture that often prefers a convenient, life-hack version of faith. Drawing from his experience leading a diverse, “purple” church in the heart of a rapidly changing city, Elliott unpacks the tension between cultural Christianity and true discipleship, the challenge of navigating faith in a polarized world, and the opportunity to reintroduce people to the authentic, transformative Jesus many have misunderstood or left behind. From stories of redemption to reflections on leadership, this episode invites pastors and leaders to move beyond being right and instead lead people toward a deeper, kingdom-centered way of living.

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What Is a Catechism (and Why the Church Needs It) | Trevin Wax
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What Is a Catechism (and Why the Church Needs It) | Trevin Wax

Catechisms have been used for centuries to help Christians clearly understand and articulate the core truths of the faith. In this conversation, Mike Glenn sits down with author and editor Trevin Wax to explore what a catechism is, why it has played such an important role in Christian formation throughout church history, and why it may be especially valuable in today’s cultural moment. They discuss how simple question-and-answer statements of doctrine can help believers recognize the difference between the story of the gospel and the narratives shaping the wider culture, while also offering practical ways churches, families, and small groups can use tools like the Gospelway Catechism to strengthen discipleship and theological clarity.

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Ministry Back to the People | Sandy Hamilton
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Ministry Back to the People | Sandy Hamilton

Ministry Back to the People is more than a catchy phrase, it is a recovery of what the Church was always meant to be. In this conversation, Mike Glenn sits down with longtime friend Sandy Hamilton to celebrate a story of calling unfolding over decades and to explore why the “second reformation” is about releasing ministry to everyday believers. Sandy shares how prayer, discernment, and coaching helped her step into a new season of leadership, and why coaching is becoming essential for discipleship, leadership development, and even gospel conversations in a polarized, distracted culture. From helping people uncover what they already know to creating a coaching culture that strengthens pastors, equips leaders, and forms the next generation, this episode is a practical look at how churches can identify, train, and release the body to accomplish the mission God has given.

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Fatherhood That Leads | Matt Hammitt
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Fatherhood That Leads | Matt Hammitt

Mike Glenn sits down with singer, songwriter, and speaker Matt Hammitt for a candid conversation about fatherhood, presence, and what it really means to lead at home. Matt shares the story behind his hit song “Lead Me,” the unexpected success that followed, and the moment he realized his calling as a husband and father required a different kind of decision. Together they explore the pressure many men feel to be perfect, the challenge of balancing calling and family, and why simply showing up matters more than getting everything right. It is an honest and encouraging conversation about faith, responsibility, and the quiet but powerful work of fatherhood.

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From Problem to Project: How to Convene for Community Change | Palmer Williams
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From Problem to Project: How to Convene for Community Change | Palmer Williams

What do you do when you see a problem in your city? In this episode of the Engage Church Network Podcast, Mike Glenn sits down with Palmer Williams—attorney, founder of The King’s Academy, and a natural convener—to explore how ordinary believers can move from concern to action. From her childhood spinal cord injury to her work with vulnerable children and launching a socioeconomically diverse Christian school in Nashville, Palmer shares how proximity to real needs transforms compassion into leadership. This conversation challenges churches to move beyond sitting in pews and instead gather people, build partnerships, and step into the hard, holy work of community change.

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Chris O'Rear on Why Pastors Need Friends
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Chris O'Rear on Why Pastors Need Friends

This Week Mike Glenn sits down with licensed pastoral therapist Chris O’Rear to talk about a topic most leaders don’t realise they’re starving for: therapeutic friendship. The kind of soul-level relationship that brings healing, grounding, and real connection in a world marked by isolation.

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Bringing the Gospel to Every Table, with Ian Simpkins
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Bringing the Gospel to Every Table, with Ian Simpkins

Ian Simpkins joins Mike Glenn to talk about what it looks like to lead a local church with a missionary mindset, where discipleship isn’t something you attend once a week, but you live at every “table” God places in front of you. Ian shares the surprising story of how he moved from a thriving ministry in Chicago to The Bridge Church in Spring Hill, Tennessee, and why the people, marked by humility and hunger made it impossible to ignore God’s invitation.

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Patrick Lencioni Breaks Down "The Working Genius"
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Patrick Lencioni Breaks Down "The Working Genius"

What if burnout isn’t working too much, but working outside the way God wired you? In this episode, Mike Glenn is joined by Patrick Lencioni to talk Working Genius, church staffing, volunteers, accountability, and why healthy churches require clear expectations, courageous conversations, and leaders who embrace the gifts they don’t have. Learn how to build a healthier team culture without sacrificing truth or burning out.

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A Pastor's Guide to the New Year | Shepherds Without Sheep
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A Pastor's Guide to the New Year | Shepherds Without Sheep

As we step into a new year, the Shepherds Without Sheep panel sits down to talk honestly about ministry, momentum, and the soul work pastors often avoid. From navigating post-Christmas exhaustion to rethinking what truly matters in January, this conversation pulls back the curtain on how seasoned pastors approach the start of a new year with wisdom.

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Beyond the Hallmark Christmas | Shepherds Without Sheep
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Beyond the Hallmark Christmas | Shepherds Without Sheep

In this Christmas episode of the ECN Podcast, Shepherds Without Sheep, a panel of seasoned pastors talk honestly about ministry during the holidays-the scars, the joy, and the lessons learned along the way. With humor and humility, they share stories from decades of preaching Christmas and discovering that trusting the Word matters far more than big productions.

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ECN's BEST Guests of 2025
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ECN's BEST Guests of 2025

We’re bringing you a special Best of ECN collection featuring some of the most impactful conversations of the year. From leadership to spiritual formation to navigating real-life challenges with wisdom, these moments represent the heart of why ECN exists: to strengthen pastors, encourage leaders, and build healthier churches.

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God Found Me in a Jail Cell, with Jay Cleveland
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God Found Me in a Jail Cell, with Jay Cleveland

In this week’s episode of Empowered Leaders and Thriving Churches, Mike Glenn sits down with School of Ministry student Jay Cleveland - a Nashville entrepreneur whose journey to Christ is anything but ordinary. Jay opens up about his past marked by gangs, addiction, violence, and years inside the criminal justice system. From finding God in a jail cell, meeting Jesus in a homeless shelter, and encountering the Holy Spirit on his living-room couch, Jay shares how the Lord interrupted his life again and again to rewrite his story.

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