Conversations
Conversations with Christian leaders about their calling, their journey, and the future they see forming.
Latest Episodes
Wisdom Through Experience with Jim Wideman
In this episode of the Engage Church Network Podcast, Pastor Mike Glenn sits down with ministry veteran Jim Wideman to talk about the heart of mentorship, generational leadership, and what it really means to pour into others. From his early years in children’s ministry to decades of coaching pastors and church teams, Jim shares wisdom on raising up the next generation of leaders - reminding us that “every Paul needs a Timothy, and every Timothy needs a Paul.”
Mary Wiley on Discipling the Next Generation
Many believers encounter Jesus, join a church, and serve faithfully - yet never truly build a coherent theology. In this conversation, Mike Glenn sits down with author and LifeWay editor Mary Wiley to talk about how we can better understand who God is, how He reveals Himself, and how to pass that truth on to the next generation.
Lyle Phillips on Church Planting and its Challenges
Pastor Lyle Phillips (Legacy Church, Nashville) joins Mike Glenn to trace a 20-year journey from the mission field in Mozambique and Andhra Pradesh—rescuing children and serving the poorest—to planting Legacy in East Nashville, and dreaming toward a 12-city church-planting vision.
Brett McCracken on How Information is Not Wisdom
In this episode, Mike sits down with author and thinker Brett McCracken (The Wisdom Pyramid, Scrolling Ourselves to Death) to talk about preaching and pastoring in a skeptical, hyper-online world. Brett makes a clear case for why information ≠ wisdom and how leaders can build a healthier “diet” for their souls and churches-starting with Scripture, rooted in the Church, refreshed by creation, deepened through books, and formed by beauty - with technology in its proper place.
Ian Cron Explains How the 12 Steps Aren't Only for Alcoholics
In this episode, Mike Glenn sits down with author and pastor Ian Cron - not to talk personality, but to talk recovery and discipleship. Ian shares his journey from early sobriety to a later prescription-drug relapse, and why the 12 Steps are “the gospel in compression.” They dig into shadow work, the gift of powerlessness, and the daily practices gratitude, inventory, amends, surrender, that keep us grounded in grace. You’ll hear why some of the deepest miracles happen in the church basement, and how pastors and leaders can pursue honest, humble formation that lasts.
The Challenges of Church Planting
From three kids to 300, and from the youth room to a church plant. This week, Joel & Mikayla Kelly share how God moved them from serving at Conduit (inspired by a mission-first DNA) to launching Exodus Church in Springhill, Tennessee. It’s a candid story of calling, healing church-kid wounds, and learning that the pastor’s job isn’t to do all the ministry—but to develop leaders (“be one, make one”), build ownership, and send people.
Shepherds Without Sheep: Technology, Money, and Ministry
In this candid conversation, three former pastors—Tim Harlow, Michael Easley, and Mike Glenn—share hard-won wisdom on shepherding in a changing world. From overhead projectors and cassette tapes to livestreams and AI, they trace how technology has always rattled the church—and how to use new tools with integrity: attribution over plagiarism, outlines that aid but never replace soul-deep preaching, and tech that informs without trying to transform.
Cole Huffman Talks Church Startups & Stability
In this powerful conversation, a Nashville pastor shares a hard-won journey of calling, healing, and hope. After leading through the 2019–2020 crucible-personal family strain, ministry stress, and a season where every decision drew critique-he stepped away without a next role and spent a year letting God rebuild his soul. He opens up about that healing year and the surprising door God then opened to The Gospel Church in Nashville.
Jonathan Pitts on Ministry and Grief
In this powerful conversation, Jonathan Pitts shares his remarkable journey of faith, loss, and resilience. A pastor, father of four daughters, and leader in ministry, Jonathan’s world was turned upside down when his wife, Winter, suddenly passed away at the age of 38. He opens up about navigating grief while raising his girls, moving to Franklin, Tennessee, and discovering God’s sustaining presence through unimaginable hardship.
Chris Brown on Why the Local Church Matters
This episode of the Engage Church Network Podcast features an inspiring conversation with Chris Brown: pastor of The Well in Columbia, TN, former Ramsey Personality, and leader passionate about the next generation. Chris once held the kind of role many would envy—speaking on big stages, shaping curriculum, and being part of the nationally recognized Ramsey Solutions team. But even in the middle of success, he felt a deeper call from God: to invest in the local church. That call led him and his family to Columbia, Tennessee, where a small youth group in his living room eventually grew into a thriving church led by students and fueled by a vision for reaching the next generation.
Rory Feek on Finding New Beginnings
This episode of the Engage Church Network Podcast features a heartfelt conversation with Rory Feek: singer-songwriter, author, and storyteller. Rory is best known for his music career with his late wife, Joey, and for the powerful love story that touched millions around the world. But beyond the spotlight, Rory has walked through seasons of deep grief, raising his daughter Indiana as a single father, and learning to see life as a story filled with both heartbreak and unexpected beauty.
Farming, Addiction, and Faith
This episode of the Engage Church Network Podcast features a powerful conversation with Joey Lankford: missionary, leader, and founder of Cul2vate. Joey had what most people chase after: the nice house, the nice family, the nice salary, and all the “stuff” that comes with the American dream. But beneath the surface, he felt drained, empty, and hungry for something more. That restlessness eventually led Joey and his family to leave behind the familiar comforts of Nashville for the poorest communities of South Africa. There, Joey helped launch job-creation initiatives through greenhouses and farming, discipling and equipping men and women to find dignity, purpose, and sustainable work.
AJ Levine on the Importance of Jesus in a Jewish Context
This special episode of the Engage Church Network Podcast features a thought-provoking conversation with Professor Amy-Jill (AJ) Levine, world-renowned scholar, author, and teacher of New Testament and Jewish Studies. In this timely episode, Professor Levine joins Pastor Mike Glenn to address common mistakes pastors make in preaching, particularly the tendency to take Jesus out of His Jewish context. With humor, clarity, and depth, she reminds us that Jesus always looks good, but to understand Him fully, we must also understand the Jewish world that shaped Him.
Alcoholics Anonymous and the Church
What can the church learn from Alcoholics Anonymous, and how can we join the conversation? In this episode of the Engage Church Network Podcast, Mike Glenn sits down with a longtime member of AA to explore the deep connection between faith, recovery, and community.
Dave Ramsey Talks Money and Ministry
In this episode of the Engage Church Network podcast, Mike Glenn sits down with financial expert and longtime friend Dave Ramsey for a candid conversation about pastors, money, and Biblical stewardship. Together, they explore why so many pastors struggle with personal finances, how shame keeps leaders from addressing money in the pulpit, and why churches must approach the topic through the lens of Scripture rather than fear or cultural pressure.
Mike Harder on How to Lead Large Congregations
In this episode of ECN Weekly, Mike Glenn sits down with Mike Harder the Lead Pastor of First Baptist Spartanburg to explore what it means to lead with love, humility, and a long-term vision in a historic church context. As a former Brentwood staff member and missionary kid, our guest shares candid insights about stepping into a church with nearly 200 years of legacy, following a beloved long-term pastor, and discerning what to change—and what not to.
Charles Lawless on Spiritual Dangers and the Power of Prayer
This special episode of the Engage Church Network Podcast features a powerful conversation with Dr. Charles Lawless, a respected leader, author, and professor in the field of church leadership and spiritual formation.
Jeff Allen On What Comedians Can Teach Pastors
In this episode of the Engage Church Network Podcast, comedian Jeff Allen joins Mike Glenn for an honest and deeply personal conversation about faith, fame, and finding purpose in the pain. Jeff opens up about his journey from addiction and brokenness to transformation through Christ — and how his comedic career intersected with God’s redemptive plan.
Yancy On Why Kids Ministry Matters
What if your children’s ministry could shape a generation of worshipers? In this episode, Mike Glenn sits down with worship leader, songwriter, and author Yancy Richmond to explore the power of discipling kids through worship. They discuss her book Sweet Sound, why worship isn’t just for adults, and how music forms the spiritual lives of our children.
BeBe Winans Shares How His Small Group Changed Him
In this episode, Mike Glenn sits down with Grammy-winning artist BeBe Winans—not to talk music, but to talk discipleship. BeBe shares how joining a Wednesday morning men’s group changed his life, helped him find real community, and challenged him to grow in accountability, vulnerability, and joy.

